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Cassius Invictus
Thou shalt not kill
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Posted - 2014.12.22 09:53:15 -
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Ehud Gera wrote:Delt0r Garsk wrote:How the hell does this affect WHs? We don't use ships that you dscan anyway. Wait.... you can rat while cloaked? Teach me this Voodoo!
Lol if you are only able to PvE, maybe move to Hi Sec... i live in WH and those changes don't bother me at all.
1) You can still have a friend at the WH to detect any incoming.
2) Scan immune Recons will die to WH capms.
3) Recon gangs will die to standrad T3 gangs.
4) If u solo sleepers and and have no way to detect recons, than guess what: today cloacky proteus, loki or statios can kill you just as easily.
5) With the amount of firepower we have on grid when doing sleepers in C5-C6 i wish there was someone dumb enough to try to gank us with recons...
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Cassius Invictus
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Posted - 2014.12.22 11:04:49 -
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Belinda HwaFang wrote:
Yes, i can see it won't affect you at all, but the (already deserted) lower class holes can now have combat recons camping in it and are invisible from dscan without a cloak.... This is fairly gamebreaking imo. Expect even more people to move out of lower class wormholes as a result.
In nullsec where you have local it's fine, and in higher class wormholes where the stakes are already high it's fine, but this somewhat cripples the low end wormhole dweller / daytripper. HAC resist profile combat recon which you get no warning of until it's on grid! Sure, you can be constantly combat probing on an alt for it but.....I thought CCP was moving away from such nonsense.
I can see your point and i partially agree, but remember that 1) today the risk is the same it's just that there will be another ship class to be feared 2) guys form c5-c5 roam lower class WH and will remove any recon camp for you  . Recons maybe good for killing lone PvE pilots, but will die to most standard WH fleets. |
Cassius Invictus
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Posted - 2014.12.23 13:31:50 -
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Fromtheold wrote:The real issue with recon ships is that they have not enough resists, even if you keep them as is and fix the resist issue they will already be much better and actually useable.
CCP Rise wrote:
All eight Recons will have their resist profiles brought up to Heavy Assault Cruiser level
Reading is a valuable skill  .
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Cassius Invictus
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Posted - 2014.12.23 18:28:17 -
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CCP Rise wrote:We are disappointed too with having to pull back the resists for fleets. These ships just need that drawback to balance them at smaller scales where they are more likely to get used anyway.
We have T3 rebalance, black ops rebalance, and potential ewar module changes on the horizon to help address this as well.
CCP Rise form one side I completely agree, from the another I was hoping that recons could now be used in T3 gangs instead of neut legions or ECM Tengus. If you pull back resists it won't happen. Maybe decreasing their e-war a little is a way to go?
Also do we really need both tracking disruption and neut on curse and pilgrim? Maybe curse should get another bonus instead (resists. drone speed and tracking)?
Maybe T2 resists should stay only on Combat recons but be romoved from cloaky ones?
Keep working guys  . |
Cassius Invictus
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Posted - 2014.12.24 08:44:56 -
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Squatdog wrote:Quote:For the love of all things holy, get rid of dscan immunity and keep the resists. This.
Yep. D-scan is nice but resists are so much important.
I don't see how this would break a game: now u use e-war fitted t3 instead. I would like to see combat recons used as less tanky but better e-war platforms than t3. But now the tank is so low that it has no point... also youGÇÖre not going to give t3 t1 resists profile are you?
For solo work... again: cloaky T3 and stratios are already doing what you're afraid new recons would do. Sure they have e-war, but their tank and dps are rather unimpressive (essentially a solo guy can be ewared but he takes a long time to kill during which time he may stop being solo). It does not kill ishtars either...
EDIT: and, you know, in Drones Online Ewar is not that powerful asset anymore... |
Cassius Invictus
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Posted - 2015.01.02 07:33:10 -
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DR BiCarbonate wrote:Hey rise,
like the changes mostly, Guess eve is gonna change to Curse + ishtar online.
Speaking of the ishtar, the last "nerf" (lol) you did months ago didnt do ****. you mentioned it might be to easy on it. Its time for a change. Nerf that thing out of the game. its extremely unhealthy for the balance of the game. so ******* boring. pretty much all i ever see is the ishtar.
People have had their fun. It's time. Nerf the **** out of the ishtar.
DonGÇÖt be ridiculous sir! You can also see Vexor Navy quite often .
If I see Ishtars in WH space more often than t3, than yes itGÇÖs f**ked up.
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Cassius Invictus
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A Nest of Vipers
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Posted - 2015.01.02 08:50:33 -
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Faren Shalni wrote:
While I cant say for other corps I do know our corp uses the Ishtar on a daily basis, in fact I have gone without flying my T3 in WH combat for weeks at a time.
Null Roam - Ishtar
Pulsar - Consider the Ishtar
Black hole - Ishtar
Fight at 0m on a WH in any of the above - T3 (But often someone will bring an Ishtar)
While I can't be sure I think that Ishtar is not getting nerfed because of the null lobby - it's their primary farming ship (ab orbit, deploy heavy drones to kill rats, go afk) and nerfing it would force them to actually play the game and farm with more expensive, easier to catch battleships.
But now we will have curse + ishtar so i guess it's a sign of progress . |
Cassius Invictus
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Posted - 2015.01.09 13:55:12 -
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Hey guys does shield tank on curse really make sense? You need 3 slots for a mwd, scram and cap booster and are left with 3 slot tank. You should put in one tracking disruptor too...
So whats the point? Make it 5/5 or 4/6 as a true amarr/khanid ship. If someone has such whish he can shield tank pilgrim as it is...
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CCP Rise wrote:
Align Recons around ship developer trends established in other classes (Roden Lachesis should not use missiles for example)
Where appropriate, bonuses will be adjusted to match ship developer trends
So maybe +4% armor res bonus instead of tracking disruption? you can keep 6/4 then . |
Cassius Invictus
Thou shalt not kill
A Nest of Vipers
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Posted - 2015.01.12 12:44:06 -
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For all of you who are afraid of d-scan immunity: it's nothing that cannot be changed back :)
For CCP: guys don't be afraid to make drastic changes and than cancel them if they prove to game-braking. Like HAC restistnce on Recons . |
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